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i am not usually a panic buyer but a few of the fuel stations around andover are already closed and i have got to much work to do that i could not do with out fuel so today i filled up 12 x 25lt diesel cans and 9 x 5lt petrol canstotal cost just over £580 but even if there isnt any fuel shortage i wont have to get any fuel for the next 3 weeks.
I hope you have a good insurance policy
We looked into this last week due to a number of concerns mentioned by my guys.
So, our research found thus:
Two issues - 1/ Legal, 2/ Insurance. Here is what we found/had told to us.
1/ TRANSPORTING PETROL AND OTHER FLAMMABLES
The purpose of the regulations dealing with the carriage of dangerous goods is to protect everyone either directly involved, or who might become involved, such as members of the emergency services or public. Regulations place duties on everyone involved in the carriage of dangerous goods, to ensure that they know what they have to do to minimise the risk of incidents and guarantee an effective response. Regulations regarding purchasing, transporting and storing fuel are becoming much more stringent. The following guidelines are for businesses transporting flammables
FILLING UP CONTAINERS AT PETROL STATIONS
All petrol stations are under licence to supply fuel, very similar to alcohol licence. If they are caught breaching these licences they could lose their right to supply fuel. By law, the only type of can which can be filled up is one approved to UN1203. Most petrol stations have restrictions in place now which prevents any more than 2 cans being filled in one visit. This is posted on/near pumps and normally dictates max or 2 * 5l plastic cans or 2 * 10L metal containers.
TRANSPORTING FUEL IN APPROVED CONTAINERS DURING BUSINESS ACTIVITIES
Ensure that you do not carry over the maximum allowed by law, without having an ADR licence. This is 333 litres, but HSE will always look at the amount you should have ‘reasonably been carrying’ if you are involved in an accident.
Your vehicle should be labelled with the flammable diamond, the only requirements by law are:
Driver training in accordance with ADR1.3
Carry 2kg fire extinguisher
Stow the cans securely to avoid damage or loss from the vehicle.
2/ INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS:
This is from OUR insurers (other maybe be different). We can only carry 2*5l of fuel in suitably approved containers (funnily enough there appears to be now insurance restriction if fuel contained within machines within van, as long as machines are secured). These containers must be secured to such an extent they can not fly about in the event of accident. Should there be an accident, and loose fuel cans are found to be a contributory factor to the level of the claim, then it is likely our insurance will be invalidated and thus libel for any subsequential damage/payout and vehicle would not be covered (we've had a lot of extra endorsements added to our commercial vehicle insurance policies over the last two years as insurance companies look to tighten their act).
I am sure others have their own veiws, or may have found different, but the above for us is now 'best business practice' and has been provided to us in writing so we are covered, ie my guys are following the law and insurance conditions.
Ultimately, I have to protect our business and my guys (who would be partly libel and prosecuted).
This posted here purely as information and not as a recommendation etc. You should perform your own checks and satisfy yourselves.
firstly i didnt want to be running out of diesel for the truck or petrol for the tools, to much to do and need it,
didnt get caught by the police and didnt have an accident, so no problem, and it was me taking the risk not you,
Richard Matthews said:
I think the point he had was if you hit the in front that had a family of 5 including children but the same could be said about a fuel tanker if that leaks. In which case you need to run fast or kiss ur a**e good by. I thought you were only allowed to store 10 litres by law??? as I remember a guy begin taken to court when he had more stored in his garage. not to sure now.
Most of the time it is the fumes that burn rather than the liquid.
Attached is useful advice from trading standards. if you store more than 10 litres you need a license or to notify the petroleum licensing authority
I have been doing what everyone should be doing - behaving normally. I filled my petrol cans when they were empty, filled the van tank when it was empty, just normal behaviour overall.
I was being held up on a main road by someone sitting waiting to turn into a petrol station and not having the decency and common sense to drive on, turn and come back on the fuel station side of the road. People acting like this are 100% completely selfish and short sighted.
As for illegally transporting fuel in the van, it's as bad as other dangerous illegal behaviour. Just because you didn't get caught doesn't make it alright!
People rush out and panic buy because they are afraid the bread/milk/petrol supplies will run out. And what happens? Supplies run out. And why do they run out? Because people panic buy. Self fulfilling prophecies.
ditto.
Dan Frazer Gardening said:
some people certainly getting on there high horses over this arnt they, i thought most people on here are landscapers of one description or another NOT THE FUEL POLICE
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