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  Chris Auld January 12, 2014 at 5:58pm

  close one!
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  Phil Voice January 12, 2014 at 6:11pm

  One lucky man!
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  Benedict Simmons January 12, 2014 at 6:22pm

  It could have very easily turned into a fatal one. So many things wrong. It makes you think about restricting sales of saws but then again you can drown in a puddle.
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  Chris Auld January 12, 2014 at 6:38pm

  I firmly believe everyone, even members of the public, should be forced to complete a CS30 course if they want to purchase a chainsaw.
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  Jez Young January 12, 2014 at 6:55pm

  You can`t fix stupid.
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  Darren McSorley January 12, 2014 at 7:43pm

  i have just got my self a chain saw (STIHL MS 291) i have only used a chain saw a few times but i do not intend in cutting down big trees. i got it to remove branches and other bits and bobs
  do use think i should get a coures on chain saws for this?? any reviews on this model would be good as well.
  thanks
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  Chris Auld January 12, 2014 at 7:46pm

  If your using it commercially then by law you require at least CS30
  
  Darren McSorley said:

  i have just got my self a chain saw (STIHL MS 291) i have only used a chain saw a few times but i do not intend in cutting down big trees. i got it to remove branches and other bits and bobs
  do use think i should get a coures on chain saws for this?? any reviews on this model would be good as well.
  thanks
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  Craig Downey January 12, 2014 at 8:09pm

  I haven't got a chain saw, but was advised by local dealer that you don't need a licence if using for a business unless you have staff thy are using the equipment.
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  Gary RK January 12, 2014 at 8:17pm

  HSE:

  "Chainsaws have the potential to cause horrific injuries. By law, chainsaw operators must have received adequate training relevant to the type of work they undertake.
  They are also required to wear appropriate chainsaw protective clothing whenever they use a chainsaw.

  Use of chainsaws in tree work
  The Approved Code of Practice, Safe use of work equipment, supporting regulation
  9 of the Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1998 (PUWER 98) (see
  ‘Further reading’) sets a minimum standard of competence for people using
  chainsaws in treework:
  ‘All workers who use a chainsaw should be competent to do so. Before using a
  chainsaw to carry out work on or in a tree, a worker should have received
  appropriate training and obtained a relevant certificate of competence or
  national competence award, unless they are undergoing such training and are
  adequately supervised. However, in the agricultural sector, this requirement only
  applies to first-time users of a chainsaw.’
  This means everyone working with chainsaws on or in trees should hold such a
  certificate or award unless:
  ■ it is being done as part of an agricultural operation (eg hedging, clearing fallen
  branches, pruning trees to maintain clearance for machines); and
  ■ the work is being done by the occupier or their employees; and
  ■ they have used a chainsaw before 5 December 1998.
  In any case, operators using chainsaws for any task in agriculture, or any other
  industry, must be competent under PUWER 98."

  The ambiguous word above is "should". However, it is highly unlikely you will be covered under your Liability insurance in case of damage or injury unless you hold relevant licenses.

  Thus you would need to tell your prospective customers that you are not covered/insured.

  In such instances you should never take what a dealer tells you has 100% fact. It will not "stand up" in a subsequent liability case/damage.
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  Chris Auld January 12, 2014 at 9:09pm

  
  
  Gary RK said:

  HSE:

  "Chainsaws have the potential to cause horrific injuries. By law, chainsaw operators must have received adequate training relevant to the type of work they undertake.
  They are also required to wear appropriate chainsaw protective clothing whenever they use a chainsaw.

  Use of chainsaws in tree work
  The Approved Code of Practice, Safe use of work equipment, supporting regulation
  9 of the Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations 1998 (PUWER 98) (see
  ‘Further reading’) sets a minimum standard of competence for people using
  chainsaws in treework:
  ‘All workers who use a chainsaw should be competent to do so. Before using a
  chainsaw to carry out work on or in a tree, a worker should have received
  appropriate training and obtained a relevant certificate of competence or
  national competence award, unless they are undergoing such training and are
  adequately supervised. However, in the agricultural sector, this requirement only
  applies to first-time users of a chainsaw.’
  This means everyone working with chainsaws on or in trees should hold such a
  certificate or award unless:
  ■ it is being done as part of an agricultural operation (eg hedging, clearing fallen
  branches, pruning trees to maintain clearance for machines); and
  ■ the work is being done by the occupier or their employees; and
  ■ they have used a chainsaw before 5 December 1998.
  In any case, operators using chainsaws for any task in agriculture, or any other
  industry, must be competent under PUWER 98."

  The ambiguous word above is "should". However, it is highly unlikely you will be covered under your Liability insurance in case of damage or injury unless you hold relevant licenses.

  Thus you would need to tell your prospective customers that you are not covered/insured.

  In such instances you should never take what a dealer tells you has 100% fact. It will not "stand up" in a subsequent liability case/damage.

  That's interesting!....where did you get this info Gary?