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The cycling gardener !

While flicking through useless crap on youtube the other night I came across this. Thought I'd share it with you guys and see what you think.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgNnYqOmjO0I put cycling gardener into google and it turns out there are a few people out there doing it. I really like the idea although you would be very limited as to what you could do and there would be no sheltering in the van when it heaves it down !It does make me feel guilty as I am a bit of a 'greeney' thundering round in a dieseal van and using noisey power tools all the time. I would like to make my business as green and sustainable as possible...something to think about.http://www.thecyclinggardener.co.uk/http://www.brightoncyclinggardener.co.uk/

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  • I'm a keen cyclist and the idea appeals to me to but I just don't think there is the awareness out there (might be my locality). Cyclists are seen as second class citizens so you shrink your target market hugely.

    I try and make sure that I'm environmentally friendly as possible. I make do with a small van for fuel efficiency reasons, try and recycle all waste and buy the best power tools. Green issues will definitely take a back seat through the recession.

    Peak Oil is forecast to hit within the next 10 years or so and our whole way of life will have to change and adapt.
  • I'm also a keen cyclist Tim, I think it could work in a city like Edinburgh where I'm based but the more I think about it I don't see how you could make it profitable.

    There would be alot of wasted time traveling between jobs and would add extra stress and strain on the body which already gets put through enough on an average days graft !

    I applaud those two guys for what they are doing though.
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    I would buy a set of second hand tools and leave them at the clients property or use ones provided by the client.

    It is a great idea and would work in towns or on a large estates with work in close proximity.
  • I think its a fabulous idea. I genuinely need my van as i travel up to 30 miles for some jobs and mainly for taking away waste. I would love to run my van on bio diesel but while it's £1.25 i may have to rethink. If the goverment knocked tax off bio diesel I would be there in a shot.

    I was at the same college as Ian ( the brighton cycling gardener ). He's great
  • I've been working as a cycling gardener in Brighton and Hove for 4 years. I try to keep my round as local as possible to avoid getting exhausted, but if I like a garden and the customer, then I am quite willing to cycle a few miles to get there. I've kitted myself out with Wolf Tools which have interchangeable tool heads for one handle making it very easy packing a wide range of tools into a small space. I do have a small lawnmower, but I'm finding that people seldom ask me to cut their lawn. I have a "Carry Freedom" trailer which I can use to carry plants and compost around the city. I'm clear at the outset that I cannot take waste away. All of my customers are absolutely fine disposing of their own green waste. I steer people towards a local green waste processing cooperative who will pick up larger amounts for a fee at short notice. Having tools that pack up small, I'm also able to travel by bus or train to get to the garden. Sometimes customers collect me by car. I'm beginning to develop a list of local businesses who are willing to deliver plants or compost etc directly to the customer's garden, overcoming the need for a van.
    Whilst initially I advertise as doing Garden Maintenance, most of my work ends up focusing on improving the design or planting of gardens. I focus on gardening organically and using permacuture principles in my work. Working more slowly, customers start taking an interest in their own gardens. I think it is great and without a van to maintain, my costs are significantly lower than my competitors.
    If anyone needs anymore information, please contact me
    Clive - The Caring Gardener
  • My other half did a few jobs by cycling to the customers house and using their tools, I however could in no way shape or form could I operate like that as carrying a chain saw, two hedge cutters, 2 x 21 inch mowers, a pole saw and a strimmer plus hand tools, several ladders etc etc..... I would need a team of people on push bikes that could transport all this on a 30 mile round trip every day !!!!

    But....

    Like has been said in the right place and for the style of work they do..good on 'em.

    I do run my van on chip fat though & do offer smaller lawns the option of using a Brill Razor cut push pull mower for the green vote (though I must admit it never gets used ??).
  • I'm amazed to see our video mentioned here! My friend Greg spent many evenings editing that!!

    Just to add to some of the comments, I've been going for nearly 2 years now and have had almost no probs at all. Mainly because I've, like Clive, made it clear from the start that I can't take away lots of waste, but the same as Clive, my customers are fine with that. And Norwich has recently introduced brown bins so many of them use those anyway. I do occasionally take waste away, and it still amazes me just how much you can get on a Carry Freedom trailer. Of course there's limits on what I can do, but all my tools fit easily on my trailer and give my legs a good work out which is probably a good warm-up before gardening itself! A lot of my customers simply need a hand in the garden and still do a certain amount themselves and I would never claim to be a high end gardener or landscaper.

    As for being profitable, it is almost a fool proof business plan! My overheads are very small. My first few jobs I walked to with a spade and hand fork, until I'd earned enough to buy the trailer (approx £180). At the same time I stocked up on tools and really my only costs since then have been a new blade or bungee every now and then. This is great because I can keep my rates very reasonable and my costs down.

    The reason I started in the first place was that after working for someone else and having seen how many jobs were delayed or canceled because of traffic, engine problems or other mechanical failures, i thought there must be a way of doing it without having that uncertainty and expense. The 'green' side of things is how I would want to run any business really, so the two went well together. I'm certainly not a looking-down-nose greeney-type and claim no moral high ground as some may think perhaps. It's just great being outside as I'm sure any member on here would agree!

    With regards the cyclists being second class citizens comment, I'm not really sure this makes any difference. If anyone thinks that, I personally wouldn't want to work for them anyway. Most gardeners would probably agree that there are enough gardens around to leave the ones with mean owners to tend for themselves..!

    josh :)
  • Josh said:
    With regards the cyclists being second class citizens comment, I'm not really sure this makes any difference.
    Josh, My comment was related to how cyclists are generally seen in this country. The car lobby is strong and anyone seen trying an alternative must be a nutter. I thought that this would limit your target market to fully sold-up greens only, of which there aren't enough. I'm glad to be proved wrong, more power to you. I think you're just 5-10 years ahead of everyone else and, just between you and me, I'm pretty jealous of you and Clive.
  • Hi James, Funnily enough when i started out I had no transport of my own at all. So I bought a tool-bag on wheels and got the tube or the bus to all my jobs (I'm based in London). I got a lot of strange looks from various other commuters - mostly in prim suits - summing me up in my muddy boots and unwieldy bag, but it was satisfying knowing that I was on my way to/home from a good day's work in the open air while they were sitting at their desk in an office.
    I use a car now and do a lot more design as opposed to maintenance; but just last week I was recalling those days of trundling around with my wheelie-tool-bag and wondering how on earth I did it!!
    I completely agree with the sentiment of the 'cycling gardening', but god it's hard work!
  • I've been away for a few days and this discussion has built up a bit of speed ! (no pun intended)

    Great to hear the views of Josh, Clive and Charlotte (tool bag on wheels on the tube..hat's off to you, I can imagine the funny looks) I'm really taken by the idea, so much so there are at least a couple of customers who I can cycle to, ditch the van for a day. Also won't have to faff about with parking meters ! another plus
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