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  • PRO
    I've used this site before (both as source of info and products): http://www.railwaysleeper.com/railway%20sleeper%20treatments.htm

    It's FAQ section has an intersting Question - Cut & pasted here:

    Q1: We have got railway sleepers that we want to make into decking however they are covered in years of railway muck - is there a product we can use to clean this mixture of oil and muck off? Do you sell it etc?
    A1: Cleaning up sleepers depends on what's on them. If 'railway muck' is merely airbourne grime and dust, then scrubbing with soapy water & detergent / or wirebrushing / or power jetwashing should nicely do the job. If it's some surface diesel / oil that has dripped down from an engine, then detergent or an oil 'dissolver' will deal with it. If you're talking about internal tar and creosote from the original treatment of the timber, then there's virtually nothing you can do, especially if it's continuing to ooze from within. Hot weather tends to draw the creosote and tar to the surface, where it fluctuates between being hard or sticky in various temperatures. Not nice or recommended for decking, especially British pine railway sleepers.


    I'm not sure if that's what you wanted to hear, but I suspect other LJNers may have ideas....
  • Very early in my career I made the mistake of building a sand pit in a nursery shool out of reclaimed sleepers, mothers were not amused about the tar on little veronica's dress so out they came to be replaced by new ones!
  • Well the smell would be a matter of personal opinion. However, apart from the health & safety implications, I think reclaimed sleepers oozing tar/creosote are extremely unattractive, plant-unfriendly and people-unfriendly. Personally I would never recommend their use in garden design.



    I specialise in reclaimed sleepers and i`m sorry to say this there is no cure...i would say on average one out of 20 leak from my supplier, We now have to put a disclaimer to our customers in reference to the possible leakage..but there is no cure you are stuck with it...the tar is there to preserve and it it wasn't i doubt you would be using them today..that`s what i say to customers..i love the smell !
  • PRO
    I know this is an old thread but I now have the very same problem with one in a customers garden.

    Just wondered if anyone has any "new" ideas to combat/prevent tar seeping out when it's hot?

    Darren

    P.s Just a thought but could you drill and inject something to seal it?
  • it is what it is. a lump of wood thats been impregnated with all sorts of rubbish in an attempt to preserve it as long as possible. you wont stop it what's in it coming out. I wont touch them with a barge pole

  • Alot of railway sleepers are getting on for 40+ years old, with good reason - some were soaked in Coal-Tar, which makes them close on imortal - Field gates on a farm i use to tip at, are made from them - these posts alone are 25 years old and not a jot of rot at all,
    they are still tacky to touch even now.

    The older ones from the days Pre-H&S Were creosoted, then painted with engine oil - a trick until recently still used by preserved / steam railways, to preserve them. Sometimes they were left for several days in baths of said oil - + Added to that regular maintenance of a line often was an excuse to disposve of the vast amounts of old oil the railways needed to get ride off - Non-new sleepers are almost certainly a no go if you dont want oil and tar!



    Thermo said:

    it is what it is. a lump of wood thats been impregnated with all sorts of rubbish in an attempt to preserve it as long as possible. you wont stop it what's in it coming out. I wont touch them with a barge pole

  • just buy green oak sleepers

  • Current legislation states that creasoted products (ie most non tropical sleepers) can not be used where frequent skin contact may occur. In my eyes this includes all areas of the garden so i stay well away. The following (Regulation 6 - S1 2003.1511) bans use: Forbidden uses • inside buildings • in toys • in playgrounds • where there is risk of frequent skin contact in locations such as parks, gardens and outdoor leisure facilities, garden furniture
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