"Try engleburt strauss http://www.engelbert-strauss.co.uk/ for a comprehensive range of workwear also have a look at http://www.team-colours.co.uk/ you can personalise your colours on shirts, etc & have it logo'd…"

" hi i use a firm in shropshire mostly rugby brands ie kooga end of line items he does all the branding top man good prices mike townsend 07739582185 tell him cookie gave the number we have all ours invoiced as ppe so full tax allowed"

"Hi all, Can anyone recommend a good place to get work wear logoed up in the south west, or a good online service? Many thanks. Ben"

"That's a very interesting comment Gareth and worthy of a topic itself.  To be a 'complete' landscaper, you really do need to be a jack of all trades.........and a master them all!  So how do you learn these skills, when you…"

"It is an extremely difficult sector to get good staff. as there are so many skills involved. You can find lots of people who are good at certain aspects such as paving and carpentry. But very few hold a good knowledge and grasp of it all. We…"

"Hi Kevin Where to begin! First of all it was Mark Gregory who criticised landscapers and not LJN who criticised the APL. Speaking at a private event, the chairman of a private members' organisation decided to, yet again, take a pop at…"

"Then we come down to the definition of Landscapers ?  I'm going to make an assumption that Mark Gregory was discussing Landscapers in the context of Garden and Landscape Design and Build. Not including commercial maintenance, domestic…"

"I think you will  find Gordon said that Not Phil, this time, LOL "

"it didn't, it got turned into Phi's bi annual APL bashing thread ;)"

"Where did it say in the original post that he meant 25% of APL members ?"

"That's just someones opinion and I know he is a very experienced man with this industry but I don't think it is fair to pass judgement on other Landscapers. I am sure if you asked another experienced landscaper then they will give you a…"

"Interesting comment you make Phil that "There is a minimum standard that APL members have to adhere to". Now I know I'm just one member out of 220 but I've been an APL member for 2 years but the only contact I've had…"

"APL members are coached not to compete on price.  There is a minimum standard that APL members have to adhere to. It won't be comforting to them to hear that some members aren't meeting those standards. It's a bit of a gaff from…"

"Don't forget the low-budget effect! ... We all know we have to work to budget. I've built plenty of gardens I wasn't happy with because the client couldnt afford or didnt know better and I needed the job. They'd get a cowboy to…"

"Thanks Gordon That was an interesting comment for Mark to make! "

"I expect he was basing this on work he has come across and discussions with others in the industry, and he was well aware of the fact that many in the APL were not producing quality work. But as he said everybody has different points of view on what…"