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Website: http://www.sgd.org.uk/
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Comment by Phil Voice on September 7, 2013 at 10:17

Raymond Blanc garden competition nears judgement day
http://www.landscapejuice.com/2013/09/raymond-blanc-garden-competit...


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Comment by Phil Voice on April 15, 2013 at 15:58

SGD now have a Twitter account: https://twitter.com/The_SGD


Pro Designer
Comment by Caro Sanders on January 9, 2013 at 9:59

Thanks Phil, comments much appreciated. By the way our first "getting started" day is sold out, may be a further one if we can squeeze it in before the "marketing strategy day" on 1st March.


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Comment by Phil Voice on January 7, 2013 at 18:57

Hi Caro

I concede:) I was trying to be clever but I didn't test my theory before I posted.

SGD members might be interested to note that the SGD website isn't as secure as they might of hoped.

BTW, you and others are to be commended for your efforts to get social media going within the SGD:-) I hope I didn't appear to be knocking with my previous comments? My displeasure is purely focused on the SGD as a dis-organisation.

Keep up the good work:)


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Comment by Caro Sanders on January 7, 2013 at 16:08

Hi Phil, that's interesting. Unusually I did check into the forum today (because thought I'd have a look at it again before posting on here earlier) and noticed that there is a post about social media made last month. That doesn't show up in your search. Which makes me wonder if your way of searching relates to the public part of the site but not the members only forum? There is in fact a general search facility on the site itself, but that doesn't apply to the forum either. So looks as though the forum remains unsearchable (is that a word?) for the time being.


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Comment by Phil Voice on January 7, 2013 at 15:23

There's a shortcut to searching any website (not that you should have to resort to a hack to find what you are looking for).

If you type the word(s) or phrase (separated by a comma) and then the words site: then the website address, you'll find what you are looking for.

So it should look like this to search for any page which contains the words 'caro' + 'sanders' (but without the parenthesise)

[caro sanders site:www.sgd.org.uk]

I've just searched the SGD site using the search terms 'social' + 'Media' and this is what I got:

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Luke Brynley-Jones - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=648File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Are you paddling around in the shallows of social media marketing? ... The Society of Garden Designers has arranged a Social Media Marketing Strategy day for ...

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Luke Brynley-Jones - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=646File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
GET STARTED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA with. Luke Brynley-Jones date: Friday 8 th. February 2013 time: Registration from 09:30 start prompt 10:00 to 17:15. venue ...

Society of Garden Designers - DESIGNER DEVELOPMENT DAYS
www.sgd.org.uk/members_light_blue/SGD_events.aspx5 Aug 2011 – He wil also explain how other social media sites work for business. This course is for garden designers who do not have any prior knowledge of ...

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DDD 135+136 Soc Media Spec Offer L&SM - Society of Garden ...
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=650File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
SPECIAL OFFER BOOKING FORM TO ATTEND BOTH: GET STARTED with SOCIAL MEDIA and. Develop your SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING STRATEGY ...

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DDD 136 Soc Media pt 2 L&SM 1 - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=649File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
London & South Midlands; London & South; Mid South. BOOKING FORM. DEVELOP YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING STRATEGY with Luke Brynley-Jones ...

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DDD 135 Soc Media pt 1 L&SM 8 - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=647File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
London & South Midlands; London & South; Mid South. BOOKING FORM. GET STARTED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA with Luke Brynley-Jones DATE: Friday 8 th ...

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SURVEYING WITH CONFIDENCE – IAN HUMBY - Society of ...
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=592File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
14 Sep 2012 – From websites, blogs and social networking sites, to showing clients what you can do and promoting your work, really good photos are ...

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surveying with confidence – ian humby - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=634File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
clients, upload onto blogs or social networking sites, or add to your portfolio, you need to have some real understanding of what you and the camera are doing ...

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where the future lies - Society of Garden Designers
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=641File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
2 - Promotion -Web optimisation; Social networking; etc. ✓ What the landscaper expects from a designer with James Steele. Sargeant. The designer/contractor ...

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Glass, a super material, has been around for a very long time yet ...
www.sgd.org.uk/Media/Download.aspx?MediaId=522File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
39 Professional zone. Showcasing your work, boosting your search engine rankings and running your own social network campaign. Plus, 5 minutes with…


Pro Designer
Comment by Caro Sanders on January 7, 2013 at 15:13

Thanks Jill for your comments. And thanks to Steve too. Couldn't agree more about the website forum, btw. [not that I can pretend to know what NING means:) but in general I find the forum frustrating without search facility so don't use it]

Comment by Steve Rice on January 6, 2013 at 14:08
Well said Caro! As a past cluster group organiser, I know that the RCOs are always looking for input on the kinds of events to set up, so helping to satisfy the needs of the membership - but I also know that it's sometimes up to the Organisers to come up with the ideas. In general, I think the Regional events are very cost effective - usually being some kind of "tangible" learning experience, and, as commented by yourself & Rosalind, are favourable compared to other commercial courses.

With regard to the SGD's involvement in Social Media, I think it could have done much better with its own web site if it had adopted a NING-based vehicle, like Landscape Juice & Vectorworking, rather than trying to develop the members Forum in-house. My own experience of the latter is that it's totally useless as a means of debate, and I've long since given up any reference to it. Had it created an open-to-all forum, perhaps with a private "members only" subsection, with the ability to add blog articles and search by keyword, it could have been as successful as Landscape Juice! Too late now, I guess, but not too late to transfer its allegiance to LJN and dispense with its own failed online forum?

Pro Designer
Comment by Caro Sanders on January 5, 2013 at 18:47

Happy New Year to all. I see that the SGD’s attempt to get into the 21st century is attracting some attention. As the regional coordinator who proposed the social media courses, and (together with others) is arranging them, I’d like to make a few points.

1. The SGD is an organization made up entirely of volunteers (committee members, regional coordinators, cluster group leaders – all work for nothing). The only paid members of staff are the amazing office workers.

2. One of the tasks which regional coordinators carry out is to organize courses for garden designers, whether SGD members or not. These courses only run as long as they can break even. Any profit made goes to the SGD coffers, not to any of the individuals involved.

3. The SGD comprises many individuals. Some of them are familiar with social media. Many are not.

4. As a regional coordinator our job (as I see it) is to identify areas which may be of interest and positive benefit to garden designers in the process of designing or promoting their businesses, whether that is surveying on steep sites, learning about drainage, or photography, or marketing, or whatever else might be relevant.

5. As a recent convert to some social media I was keen to introduce others to the values/interest they can offer. I therefore suggested that the SGD run a course or session looking at the practicalities and potential benefits for garden designers of embracing Twitter, Facebook and so on.

6. It is not essential to attend a course in order to learn about social media. One can learn about Twitter, Facebook and all the others from internet research. For my own part, I found it helpful to attend a course some while ago, which showed me how to set up a Twitter page, a Facebook business page, and so on. There were many other business owners on that course who presumably also felt it helpful to set aside a day from work, in order to learn something new in an environment where experts were on hand to help out. I don’t know how many things are on the average “To Do” list, but teaching yourself social media and marketing may come a fairly long way down for some people, who would nonetheless benefit from a day spent with others learning how to do the same thing. You can learn to ski from reading a book, but you can probably do it a little better by spending some time with a skiing instructor.

7. The courses (one is a practical “starting up” type course for a limited number of people; the second is a larger and more extensive look at marketing, which assumes some basic knowledge and familiarity with social media) are priced at a level which is around one third of the commercial rate charged by the well-known speaker.

8. I personally have been frustrated by the lack of engagement by the SGD with social media, and have joined in discussions on Twitter to say so. As I mentioned above, the SGD is a collection of individuals with no paid members (big topic for another discussion). I felt that it would benefit individual garden designers to become more comfortable and familiar with the whole social media world, I personally proposed the courses and am part of making them happen. The more garden designers know about it, the more likely “the SGD” will come to use it too, since “the SGD” is the sum of its parts (ie garden designers)!

9. On a personal note, I have been a regional co-ordinator for 6 years and am stepping down when the social media courses have run. I met Janine (see her comments below) when she was an RCO too. It’s good to be in touch with other designers and be part of making something happen, rather than just criticizing from the sidelines. No harm in criticizing, per se, but better to have an idea of context, and thus more of a chance of getting things done.

10. My job will soon be vacant, if anyone wants a go! Get in touch ;)


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Comment by Phil Voice on January 4, 2013 at 11:16

For a beginner's introduction course it's not cheap either.

Prices here

 
 
 

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