When laying muti sized random paving, be it Indian, Yorkstone or whatever It has always been my practice to lay it in a fashion so that there are no cross '+' joints and no straight lines that cross more than three joints. The rationale being that the eye is drawn to these and distracts from the finished result.  This said I don't think I have seen one laying pattern supplied by a supplier that takes this into consideration. Other contractors I have seen also seem not to worry about it.

So...am I anal?

 

Clive

www.thehandmadegarden.com

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Good points.

 

BTW Marshalls have uploaded a full set of paving laying patters. I assume they can be applied to any brand of paving?

 

http://www.landscapejuicenetwork.com/forum/topics/paving-laying-pat...

I'm the same, I would never lay a pattern with cross joints, it looks unprofessional in my opinion. The random patio generators available on various site always throw out designs with cross joints but they can be altered. If I have a large space to pave I tend to draw up a pattern and laminate it, once at the end of the pattern I flip it over so as not to reproduce the same pattern. I'm sure we can all lay random patterns freehand so to speak but having a pattern drawn out, I find, help saves time over large areas.

I lay all of our random lay paving free hand, and I'm the same as you guys, I always try to avoid the cross appearing.

I was taught it was the best laying practice so have always stuck to it.

I was re pointing a patio a few weeks ago and on a 30m2 patio there where 7 crosses. But then it seemed to be laid on sand with a dusting of cement over the top!

ouhhh Kieran lets not lower the tone with mention of such laying methods. You will be telling me next you've seen some 5 spotters.

A trick I use for getting the layout...dry lay then take a pic on your phone. You can lift and refer back to it.....Not advised on big Yorkstone though :-/

 

Clive

www.thehandmadegarden.com

Philip

Just checked out the link and that raises another point, Sometimes you would want to lay in a repeating pattern and that I would say looks wrong when you get the repeat wrong.

When laying block paving to an edge the 'correct' method is to turn the blocks, so you don't get any block less than one third the original. that again to my eye looks wrong as it breaks the pattern.  Particularity so when laying over a recessed cover where having the pattern flow though helps the disguise.

 

Clive

www.thehandmadegarden.com

 

We having given the customer the choice, normally lay our mixed sized paving in courses. I personally think it is a cleaner, less fussy than "random", afterall this is the original way of laying stone, hence why sizes are 1',2',3' multiples of. In tight areas, it can also be an easier pattern to work your way out of.

Do you mean in the same way as you would tegula block paving? Or am i miss interperating you?

personal preference but also mine too  more professional

 

 

Hi Clive,

I lay freehand and also avoid long straight joints and crosses, it's how I was trained and I think it looks much better too.

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