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Volunteer Steering Committee

Started by Phil Voice. Last reply by Graeme @ BGS Mar 17, 2013. 28 Replies

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 11:57
You may be aware that I have written an open letter to the APL and BALI (and sent it to the SGD).

I have campaigned in the last three years against the way that our existing landscaping trade associations go about their business and urged them to open up and allow more of the UK's horticulture professionals to participate.

Our industry is extremely fragmented and if someone does not take the lead then there is going to be one heck of a mess...year on year we are missing an opportunity to regulate, educate and forge forward with new initiatives.

I have spoken to APL Chairman Adam Frost this morning and he has agreed with most of what I have said and have proposed over the last couple of years.

I understand that I am not popular with everyone but a lot of what I said needed saying. I can live with the effects if it brings changes.

You all now have the opportunity to effect change but to do so, you need to be proactive - the time is now right and the APL are open to listening to ideas and are not against joining us in principle.

I have sent a communication to BALI too and I hope to have a response soon. The message is clear, if BALI and the APL continue on the path they are taking, their organisations are set to fail.

Whilst policy on this site will be determined by all, I will be seeking volunteers to help coordinate documents, set time-scales and propose a way forward.

I suggest two from landscaping, two from garden maintenance, two from nursery production and two from design.

One of the considerations is a new independent site that is not linked to LJ where all of our industry can merge and discuss all of our issues.

Please be a part of this and I look forward to a healthy and productive debate.
Comment by Simon Knops on July 16, 2009 at 12:08
Thanks Phil

Not sure what help I can be but as this gets underway I am sure that this will be useful and part of my ongoing education into the industry.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 12:12
If you would like to be considered as an LJN representative then please put you name down in here. I will set up a voting system so that the site can decide.

Let me reassure members that everyone is as important as the next person in determining a way forward and election to the proposed volunteer group will bring now special privileges - their presence is to help with paperwork formulation and leg-work.

I hope that anything we decide is democratic and only the wishes and aspirations of the majority will be carried forward. The industry needs to be led by those that work within it and not those with personal ambitions.

Consider this a wiki type collaborative exercise.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 12:17
Hi Simon

Your contribution is as healthy and needed as the next man or women. Please feel free to participate in whatever areas you feel the need.

One thing that is often overlooked is the needs of those starting out in the horticulture industry.

I have always aspired to see us represented across the board from those who want to enter into our trade to those who have been in it a lifetime.

The essential part of learning is the handing back of knowledge and the benefits it brings should never be underestimated.
Comment by Ofelia Harrington on July 16, 2009 at 12:37
Not sure if I can be much of a voice since I am in Texas but happy to join the group.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 12:39
Thanks Ofelia - geography is not an issue. If you feel you can help the debate then please feel free to pitch in.
Comment by Colin Elliott on July 16, 2009 at 12:56
Isn't the Society of Garden Designers a major part of the problem? It excludes 90% of it's members from taking part in policy decisions and rewards only those few who accept their very particular view of garden design by giving the benifits of full membership. The SGD should be more than copied into this excercise: they should be the focus of it.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 13:14
I totally agree with you Colin. I have no experience with the SGD directly but I have had correspondence with Annabel Downs in the past so I have sent the letter to her.

It is my strongly held view that all of the incumbent organisations' models are dying - The Landscape Institute are hanging on by the skin of their teeth too. I have been advising the LI and Paul Lincoln on how to get the best out of their Ning network.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 13:25
One of the stumbling blocks for widespread communication (until now) has been the manipulation of how news has been distributed by the horticulture press agencies.

I sent the open letter to both Hort Week and the Landscaper Magazine yesterday and both of them have failed (so far) to report on the news.

I think that there is still a culture of ignorance with both the aforementioned news agencies and they will very often only select news that fits their agenda - much of it self serving and only if it has a spin-off benefit (financially) for them.

Quite frankly, there is a widespread culture of institutionalisation.

Landscape Juice has been a bold exercise but it has worked. I very much want to see the destiny of our collective industries put into the hands of those who live it day by day.

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Comment by Phil Voice on July 16, 2009 at 13:27
Hi Clive - I have covered landscape and garden design separately - this means that we will have four representatives where there might have only been two.

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