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Which chainsaw?
Hello one and all, I have a client who a do a weekly two hour slot with who has bought his local pub. It has 4 1/2 acres with it which he has asked me to help bring around after several years...decades of neglect. Much of it is woodland. He is getting a qualified tree surgeon to do the big work but has asked me to continue with the management of it when that work is completed. This is something I'm very excited about, a new challenge. I have a budget of around £400 for saw and saftey clothing. I have no experience and do not underestimate the dangers. Any advice on saws, clothing and perhaps chainsaw tutorials/lessons??? Thanks in advance.
Ben
Ben
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Permalink Reply by ben ranyard on -
Disappointed but thanks for the advice Steve. :)
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Permalink Reply by Mark on -
Ben you should really consider getting your NPTC qualifications CS30.1/30.2 at least and maybe CS31 if you want to fell anything...
Sthil MS 260 if a very good work horse but would swallow your budget...it would however probably recoup with the longevity and work load you can do with it. You could be looking at about 300 quid for safety gear alone ??? setting yourself up properly with a chainsaw isn't cheap...I spent about 2 grand to start with...
People do however buy a cheap saw don't take any training, have no insurance and do work but the choice/risk is yours.
What sort of woodland is it ? is he thinking of fire wood for the pub ? if so you'll need a method of extracting the wood and processing it, ie logging, splitting & stacking it to season.
You'll need to charge about £130.00 + for a day rate if using a saw too ;-)
Good luck with it
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Dan Frazer Gardening on -
I bought an AMA saw on the recommendation of the guys on arbtalk. Seems a good wee basic saw, £180 new, and utterly functional without any extra bells and whistles. Happy with it.
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Permalink Reply by Jez Wardman on -
I was told during training the protection on the back of the left glove was to protect against injury if a chain snapped and whipped back over the guard.
colin said:the whole point of a novice wearing gloves is that they dont always know what is a stupid move and are capable of cutting hands off
Pro Gard said:Safety training ie cs, 30, 31 and 32 is a legal requirement, without it your insurance would be void. sort this out first £400 ish
Stihl MS260 or Husqy 346 will serve you well, nothing between them or not that you would notice as a first time user.
No point getting anything smaller than a MS230 or larger than the MS260 unless your going to do a large trees. If you decide on a smaller saw than the MS230 then buy a stihl, forget any husqy below the 346 as they are crap.
Safety wear is worth spending the money on, get the stihl Advance type A trousers £180, the cheap ones are awfull, like working with a duvet around you, heavy, sweaty and restrictive. The stihl Advance are about as best as you can get.
As for boots, if you want cheap then get the welington type, atleast these are waterproof, leather boots below the £160 mark are not usualy waterproof and you will regret them , eith buy a good gortex boot like the haix or get the welington.
For the helmet get a Husquvarna balance, farr better than the stihl peltor type.
No matter what you get told on the course, in real life forget the gloves, a waste of £25, they are pointless and fall apart quickly. Unless you are pathalogicly stupid or completly reckless then you will not cut the back of your left hand ( were the protection is)
Lastly, asemble a basic first aid kit with large wound dressing, whisle and perhaps heamostatic granules, stick this in a smalll ziplock bag or similar and stick it under the webbing of your helmet, thus you will always have a first aid kit on you.
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gardens4u.co.uk on -
sorry to dissapoint , just had mine today when i got home £150 inc vat and postage........
Dan Frazer Gardening said:I bought an AMA saw on the recommendation of the guys on arbtalk. Seems a good wee basic saw, £180 new, and utterly functional without any extra bells and whistles. Happy with it.
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gardens4u.co.uk on -
sorry which model.
i read some on arb talk . its well funny . let me know about the saw - not started mine yet / all made but got to pop fuel /iol in . a good back up ! good reviews.
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gardens4u.co.uk on -
lol - thats great - wrecked his chain !!
colin said:and this one is how protective clothing protects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-FmYnaIWw
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Permalink Reply by ben ranyard on
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Many thanks to you all. I have decided on reflection and your good advice to leave the chainsaw for the time being because the cost of doing it all properly with a ticket, clothes and good saw may well outstrips the work I have planned. I garden part time, alongside nursing, so this might be over capitalising somewhat.
Many many thanks.
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Dan Frazer Gardening on -
I'm in my first year of business and technically am not using a chainsaw. I've had it out twice in 2 months simply to reduce bulk in my trailer so wouldn't see the sense in buying anything more expensive.
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Permalink Reply by David Channon on -
I agree with the others. Its worth doing the course and learning how to do it properly. Buy a decent Husky and look after it. Most of the pro's use them.
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