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Waste transfer sites

I went to my new waste transfer site this morning to drop a load of prunings off and I get there to find it has shut down all waste removed, even site office that was a ports cabin gone! This is the second one this year that has gone( the first got shut down by th EA this one I'm not sure. Nothing in the paper)My question is this has this happened elsewhere and I'm just unlucky or is it a bigger problem as they are( this one at least) not making any money?

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  • As per my discussion in the HUB - im looking into starting a green waste transfer site - The regs / rules are pretty onerous and it does look like a razor thin margin business to run. That and most local authorities are overly sensitive from nimby complaints, and in the run up to ellection year, the slightest complaint can make a LA shut a site down or place a moratorium on operations.

    The compliance rules and regs go on and on and then theirs cross- compliance, local requirements, and then after all that, restrictions on vehicle movements in and out of the site all contribute to makeing it difficult unless the business comes at the problem with a good (ive been advised circa £100k-£150k) budget for legal work, appeals, planning and primarially getting the pointless Nimby complaints dismissed (unfortunatley Nimbys have 36 hours in a day to write letters that need refuting).

    Unless the site takes all kinds of waste and is operating under long established exepmtions or is part of a BIG company, i cant see many sites opening up.

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    Thanks for that I would not mind so much but there are so few about and now I have to find another. The nearest I've found so far is 20plus miles away. I can't even pay to use council tip as they don't have a weigh bridge!
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    At that much to just get started its no wonder there are not many. The whole thing annoys me as I want to do the right thing with waste but it seems that if I have to travel too far I will have have to stop offering it as service(not that I make much money as such but I think I get extra work because I have the licence and ablity to remove waste after work)
    It also means I think that more people will fly tip as its too difficult to dispose of stuff properly
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    This is a growing problem, one that councils seem to ignore. I can't use my local tip for commercial waste and the nearest site I can use is a 60 mile round trip. To add to the problem, round here the councils have just reduced the number of green bin collection days for the winter to one a month. I can easily fill a bin on each trip.

    What do I do with my waste that will not cause a problem or cost me or my customers excess amounts? I don't want it sat in my trailer on my drive or yard. It'll cause more complaints, I'm certainly not leaving it in my van. Do I fly tip? Of course not! So I'll end up with piles of rubbish at a customers garden waiting for an empty green bin. Not good for anyone.
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    In York, they have stopped collecting from the end of October unttil April, that's right no collection for 5 months!

    Andy said:
    This is a growing problem, one that councils seem to ignore. I can't use my local tip for commercial waste and the nearest site I can use is a 60 mile round trip. To add to the problem, round here the councils have just reduced the number of green bin collection days for the winter to one a month. I can easily fill a bin on each trip.

    What do I do with my waste that will not cause a problem or cost me or my customers excess amounts? I don't want it sat in my trailer on my drive or yard. It'll cause more complaints, I'm certainly not leaving it in my van. Do I fly tip? Of course not! So I'll end up with piles of rubbish at a customers garden waiting for an empty green bin. Not good for anyone.
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    The nearest households tip, to us in Thornton led Dale run by North Yorks County Council, now allows garden trade waste, charges so much per sack, but bizzarly there is a weighbridge not 50m away.

    Richard Gadsby said:
    Thanks for that I would not mind so much but there are so few about and now I have to find another. The nearest I've found so far is 20plus miles away. I can't even pay to use council tip as they don't have a weigh bridge!
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    Really? Five months! No collections at all? That's bloody ridiculous! I'll lay you a mug of tea/pint of beer that fly tipping in your area increases dramatically!

    Geoffrey King said:
    In York, they have stopped collecting from the end of October unttil April, that's right no collection for 5 months!

    Andy said:
    This is a growing problem, one that councils seem to ignore. I can't use my local tip for commercial waste and the nearest site I can use is a 60 mile round trip. To add to the problem, round here the councils have just reduced the number of green bin collection days for the winter to one a month. I can easily fill a bin on each trip.

    What do I do with my waste that will not cause a problem or cost me or my customers excess amounts? I don't want it sat in my trailer on my drive or yard. It'll cause more complaints, I'm certainly not leaving it in my van. Do I fly tip? Of course not! So I'll end up with piles of rubbish at a customers garden waiting for an empty green bin. Not good for anyone.
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    People, are pretty annoyed, but where we live some 30 miles away in Ryedale, they have stopped collecting for 3 months and charge us £2 per collection the rest of the year.

    Either way, wake up York council, the grass doesn't stop growing for 5 months.

    I bring our clients waste home & then tip it almost 40 miles from there gardens, Doh!


    And yes, I do mean we travel to York to work.
  • Have you guys never asked on your local farms if its green waste. I rent the corner of a mostly disused field ( half now has horses on) and i dump my green waste there. Any bare trees/branches that get cut are stacked and chipped on day each month in a different pile ready to be used/sold, any that are green get put in the pile with the grass and the leaves for composting. I haven't had any issues from people about it as any compost i can't use the farmer has for his own use.

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