tight jointed fencing

I have a customer that wants a fence as per the picture below, I would propose making up the panels off site and then putting them in place between preset posts.

Here in wet northern ireland you don't see a lot of tightly jointed fences and any you do see tend to be hardwood. Has anyone here had any success constructing fences like the image above in treated softwood?

Thanks in advance.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Smith on February 20, 2012 at 22:29

Real sorry for the shameless bump but anyone any comments?

Permalink Reply by phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com on February 22, 2012 at 6:45

the trouble with tyring to make a fence like this with softwood is going to be in the winter it will expand with all the wet weather and in the summer it is going to shrink and you will end up with gaps in the joints, then you will be called back to try to fix the problem, this is why they are normaly made out of hard wood, using softwood would be the same as laying decking you need to leave a 5mm gap to alloy expansion.

Permalink Reply by Tim Haywood on February 22, 2012 at 7:07

You could make the centre into a "floating" panel. Have a rebated frame all the way around, fix each piece of tongue and groove to each other but not to the frame itself - they just sit in the slot. As long as the rebate is deep enough any expansion would move into this.

Permalink Reply by phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com on February 22, 2012 at 19:40

another thing you might think of taking into account, the time it is going to take to make them and the price of the timber in the first place, it would probably be easier and cheeper to just buy the hardwood panels already made, get the job finished off quicker and then move on to your next job

Permalink Reply by Simon Smith on February 22, 2012 at 20:16

thanks for all the thoughts much appreciated, I have been thinking carefully about the time to make them as there are 22 panels. After much though and discussion with my local fecning supplier i have come to a compromise of using a z shape profile so any movement will at least not show daylight through it. Even doing them this way with the cover and capping strips its going to be an expensive fence but the customer is an engineer and should understand.


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gardens4u.co.uk on February 23, 2012 at 0:38

i agree ,  why not do it 'properly' and save your time/headache / money?   and  buy them from suppliers ???

isnt that what they are for.    we have made a close-board fence today with gravel board, 3 rails and capping in brown treated wood , but i wood ;) not entertain making these...

would the customer be willing to pay for your time and would they be as good quality as from a timberyard?

fair play if you have a workshop and a week or so to make tongue & groove , but as stated above they rreally need to be some sort of harder wood ortherwise they will :  move / split/ rot & require lots of treatment , pressure treating at a yard or staining with preservative properly too give a guarantee  etc etc 


phil smith said:

another thing you might think of taking into account, the time it is going to take to make them and the price of the timber in the first place, it would probably be easier and cheeper to just buy the hardwood panels already made, get the job finished off quicker and then move on to your next job

Permalink Reply by Marcia Francis on February 23, 2012 at 13:10

Hi Simon

We do solid softwood panels, that look similar to your picture and they come with our Jakcure 25yr guarantee;

All our panels 1.83m wide and will/should slot into your posts;

Chilham "Good Both Sides" panels  http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/fencing/fencing-panels/chilham/fe...

Tongue and Groove Panels http://www.jacksons-fencing.co.uk/fencing/fencing-panels/tongue-and...

If you need a quotation, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Kind regards

Marcia

07764 357181

marcia.francis@jacksons-fencing.co.uk

Permalink Reply by Simon Smith on February 23, 2012 at 18:16

I would love to buy them off the shelf but my local fencing supplier won't make them up and i appreciate the offer Marcia but shipping 23 panels to belfast might be a little pricey.

Unfortunately in northern ireland you take what you can get supplier-wise sometimes

Permalink Reply by Simon Smith on May 5, 2012 at 21:15

Thanks to all who contributed for help and suggestions, we went with a compromise in the end of standard closeboards with some purely aesthetic face and capping rails.

Turned out well and they are very happy with it.

2p6qs98d2phidPermalink Reply by 2p6qs98d2phid on May 5, 2012 at 21:27

Nice looking job

Simon Smith said:

Thanks to all who contributed for help and suggestions, we went with a compromise in the end of standard closeboards with some purely aesthetic face and capping rails.

Turned out well and they are very happy with it.

Permalink Reply by phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com on May 5, 2012 at 22:04

nice and tidy, very good job, now the moan, should have covered the concrete around the bottom of the post's with turf before the picture, just like me a bit impatient,lol

Permalink Reply by Trish Reynolds on May 6, 2012 at 15:17

Nice job!

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