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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gary RK on December 5, 2011 at 19:33

I would go public, name & shame and copy your refusal letter to their MD at their registered address, but then that's the devil in me coming thru.

I guess you've planted the T&C's game as to who's T&C's are in effect for your business relationship ?

I have done similar before, with every intention of parting company. Turned out the MD didn't know what the 'little' department heads were up. They had a sudden change of heart.....

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Permalink Reply by Richard Boyd on December 5, 2011 at 19:40

They are st1t scared Chris they know the carp that is about to happen (in the financial sector, it's only a matter of time before the next big crunch comes and it will hit hard) and they are doing their best to limit any damage.

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Permalink Reply by chris nangle on December 5, 2011 at 20:32

Too true Rich but not with me mate,

I have told them its now payment before delivery with me now!

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Permalink Reply by Fenlandphil on December 5, 2011 at 20:56

I have had problems with a large company it took them the best part of six months to settle one bill, the next one was paid on time, the one after that was three months and I put them on stop when they were desperate for us to complete an order to get that one settled. Their excuse was that the delivery wasn't booked in and they wanted proof of delivery, I had a right go at them and asked them why didn't they ask for proof of delivery as soon as they received the invoice and not wait until they were being chased for payment. The current situation is we are waiting payment for the last order we have demanded immediate settlement, until we receive payment their next order won't get started on and it will be on a proforma basis if the money isn't soon in our account. 

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Permalink Reply by chris nangle on December 5, 2011 at 22:29

bloody hate it Phil , I hear of big firms going pop every week and taking god knows how many small guys with them and then they start up a week later and do it all over agian .

I know of some people who have been done for £40k the people who folded were trading 5 weeks later ,Shocking stuff but legal

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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by David Cox on December 6, 2011 at 8:36

There needs to be some form of restriction on all Directors of a Failed company - Perhaps 2 years banned from taking up new posts or founding a New company, and to be banned from having anything to do with the successor company if it goes through a "flat pack". I know of a local Take away which has gone under twice now, same guy running it, screwing his suppliers over each time.

chris nangle said:

bloody hate it Phil , I hear of big firms going pop every week and taking god knows how many small guys with them and then they start up a week later and do it all over agian .

I know of some people who have been done for £40k the people who folded were trading 5 weeks later ,Shocking stuff but legal

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Permalink Reply by chris nangle on December 6, 2011 at 16:00

spot on David

some people have no shame

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Permalink Reply by Colin Hunt on December 6, 2011 at 17:19

Going off topic, but your mention of the 'take away' has just reminded me of a story I heard about a guy locally who was owed the final payment for building work he had completed on a Chinese restaurant.  In spite of plenty of reminders, nothing was forthcoming, so he booked a table for 12 and they really went to town, best wine and celebratory champage etc.  When the bill came he clipped it to his invoice and said 'tell the boss to take it off my account' and off they went!

David Cox said:

There needs to be some form of restriction on all Directors of a Failed company - Perhaps 2 years banned from taking up new posts or founding a New company, and to be banned from having anything to do with the successor company if it goes through a "flat pack". I know of a local Take away which has gone under twice now, same guy running it, screwing his suppliers over each time.

chris nangle said:

bloody hate it Phil , I hear of big firms going pop every week and taking god knows how many small guys with them and then they start up a week later and do it all over agian .

I know of some people who have been done for £40k the people who folded were trading 5 weeks later ,Shocking stuff but legal

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Permalink Reply by chris nangle on December 6, 2011 at 20:23

spot on Karl

it drives you nuts ,it really does .

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Permalink Reply by David Channon on December 6, 2011 at 20:29

Tell them that its OK as long as they don't mind you invoicing 120 days in advance

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Permalink Reply by Fenlandphil on December 6, 2011 at 21:02

An aquaintence of mine served a seven day winding up order on a company thet owed him £12000, they paid very quickly.

Years ago I supplied some gates to a large building supply company and I couldn't get them to pay their bill, I opened an account with them bought stuff I needed then sent them a cheque less what they owed me with a contra entry statement. Their accounts department phoned me up, "we can't do conta entries our system won't let us"

Don't worry about it" I said, "our system can cope with it, we are all square now so we can call the issue resolved"

I had their cheque within a couple of days.

Karl Harrison said:

So you want to buy your food at a supermarket and pay next month.....I don't think so

Try getting on a ride at a fair and tell pikey you'll pay him when you get off.....no chance

Companies always pay us late, we even negotiate a further discount of the quoted labour rates in lieu of an early settlement, this is always ignored. 30 days invoiced from the end of the month - then we still don't get paid. When you do finally get paid it's wrong, sorry please send us another invoice for the balance - you've guessed it 30 days etc etc.... the bigger the company the worse they are.

We have served on too many companies, they soon pay when you do, this being only for our installation work.

All of our product sales are payment in advance on proforma, no pay - no materials - simples ;-)

We, as an industry of supplying services to large contracting companies need some kind of protection against late or non payment, any ideas?

Karl

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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gardens4u.co.uk on December 7, 2011 at 13:51

there is always a way to get 'payment 'owed .

ensure you get   full names / addresses / 2 or more phone numbers .   check internet / sites/ social sites on background for anyone you do business with is easy now and a must ..........

you just have to be clever / think about it ,  like the 'meal for 12 scenario or chris's order for monies due !

if you can tracjk them down to an address/ unit you can tell all the neighbouring businesses and ask questions or warn them they dont pay ..........:)

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