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New government bill on privacy intrusion
When the announcement was made last Sunday about the government gathering info on everyones internet use I wasn't sure whether it was an April fools trick but it does seem more serious. If anyone is unhappy about the prospect and wants to protest here is a link to a petition that has received 85000 signatures in 48 hours Anti snooping petition
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Austin Powell-Allen on -
I think the way they talk it is aimed at people on there watch lists of criminals. But interested to read further into details that are not shown.
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Permalink Reply by David Benson on -
they already do near harrogate vier one of the main fiber optic phone cables that crosses the country it will more than likely pick this message up depending on the key words ( mi5 braking my door down soon)
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Permalink Reply by Fenlandphil on -
109000 signatures so far.
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Permalink Reply by phil smith yewtreelandscapes.com on
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personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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Permalink Reply by Fenlandphil on
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"the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway"
That's the way I read it too Phil. At the end of the day the petition may make no difference but to coin a phrase I heard from an old lady forty odd years ago "it is better to light one candle than grumble about the dark".
Politicians are always very short term creatures and never or rarely consider the long term consequences of what they are doing, the last governments PPI policy is a case in point. The danger with this legislation as I see it is the potential for misuse, not only by this government but a future one with a far different agenda.
phil smith said:personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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Pro DesignerPermalink Reply by Marie-Plews Garden Design on -
not that I'm in favour of the bill, but how many of us already 'check in' to places via our mobile phone and allow / make use of tracking cookies when we're internet shopping?
my point? we're already allowing private companies as distinct from government, to track where we are and what we do & say - and there are probably fewer safeguards against how we can 'protect' ourselves on a daily basis from google and facebook than a government
the potential uses and consequences of our ever smaller global virtual world could be really scary...
and you thought Orwell's 1984 was a worse case scenario...
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Permalink Reply by Fenlandphil on
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Correction: That should have been PFI not PPI
Fenlandphil said:"the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway"
That's the way I read it too Phil. At the end of the day the petition may make no difference but to coin a phrase I heard from an old lady forty odd years ago "it is better to light one candle than grumble about the dark".
Politicians are always very short term creatures and never or rarely consider the long term consequences of what they are doing, the last governments PPI policy is a case in point. The danger with this legislation as I see it is the potential for misuse, not only by this government but a future one with a far different agenda.
phil smith said:personaly i dont think it matters how many sgnatures are collected, the goverment already collect info on all of us, yes i agree about collecting info on the scum in this country and the terrorist, but they allready do it, it only needed to go through the court system so the law says they are aloud to gather info with out informing anybody, thats the way i read it anyway
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PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Ian @ Redbarrow East Sussex on -
Marie makes a good point.
Facebook's data mining (data analysis) is well documented.
'Free' Facebook makes a fortune selling information about people's likes, dislikes and habits to businesses and marketing companies already, all without users permission.
Assuming we don't break the law, we're all just millions of faceless, anonymous names to any Government database administrators, it's not personal, and I'm not particularly bothered whether they'd be aware of my online viewing habits, or not.
Unless they're keen supporters of Exeter City Football Club, they wouldn't find it very interesting.
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