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  Mitchel ingham August 29, 2014 at 6:43pm

  By the way the back garden was just seeded never turf saw the lawns abit patchy to so is substantial grass was seeded two years ago
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  Seth Burgess August 29, 2014 at 6:45pm

  Do you want to put a Rotavator straight over the grass? Is it the intention to blend it into the soil?
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  Mitchel ingham August 29, 2014 at 6:56pm

  Well grass is dead round up took care of that so he wants to spread soil improver over dead grass boarders then rotovator lot in just wanted to know if small rotovator or tiller would handle it
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  Simon Land August 29, 2014 at 7:10pm

  Hard to say with out seeing it. From my experience a tiller isn't going to match a rotovator. I have got the tiller attachment on my stihl combi tool, and in the past I have turned the soil over to a forks depth by hand and then knocked it up finer with the tiller.
  
  Depending on how the borders are, good old hand digging is sometimes as efficient. Is that an option?
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  Colin Hunt August 29, 2014 at 7:26pm

  Hire a Camon for the day (£45 ish). Wouldn't want to attempt with a 'tiller' type machine.
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  Mitchel ingham August 29, 2014 at 7:37pm

  Won't let me hand turn customer
  
  Camons round here are £70 a day £90 delivered plus a big depsoit we talking c8? Big chevron tyres
  
  Will a small rotovator do it with round wheels not big tractor tyres?
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  matt evans August 29, 2014 at 7:47pm

  with a tiller you wiill need to do maybe 3 passes on the same section to get the same result as 1 pass on a rotovator so yes :)
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  Gary RK August 29, 2014 at 7:49pm

  If you're trade or have an account, you'd never pay catalog price for any hire equipment.

  Look for small independent hire shops. Prices much more realistic

  You need to
  - break down job into small tasks
  - identify what is needed (labour, supplies, hire costs, subbie costs) for each smaller task
  - price each task accordingly
  - consolidate and use for basis of full, itemised quote

  That way you should be covered for all your needs including potential equipment needs  (and helps you think logically through the sequence of work)

  For price difference, always go for +1 size of equipment if you are unsure.

  C8 is good machine and will likely deal with your needs.

  p.s are typing from a phone, because the text is hard to understand at times?
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  Graeme @ BGS August 29, 2014 at 8:50pm

  
  
  Mitchel ingham said:

  Won't let me hand turn customer
  
  
  

  
  Tell us more, and I thought I have some strange clients! :-)
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  Stuart @ Eco Garden Maintenance August 29, 2014 at 9:47pm

  Its a new build = small. Therefore no point hiring a c8 as its just too big and also if it hits a hard patch it will shoot forward at such a speed that it will end up through the fence in next doors garden.

  Get a tiller and go over a few times.