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Herbicide question.

Posted by Roy on March 20, 2011 at 3:12pm

Lawnmowing and lawncare is my specialist area so I may be a tad out of date with general horticultural knowledge especially herbicides. That said I'm confused.

We are ocassionally asked to apply weedkiller to paths, patios, driveways etc and with the demise of sodium chlorate have sort alternative treatments. I recently purchased a container of Deadfast weedkiller which was specifically advertised and labelled  as "for paths, drives and wasteland."  Upon reading the instructions this product is simply a spray on systemic contact weedkiller and not a residual herbicide that would both kill existing weeds and prevent further growth over a period of months. I therefore cannot see how Deadfast can be promoted as specifically for hardstanding areas.

I would be interested in members comments and advice on what residual herbicides they use on driveways etc.   

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  • Dan Frazer Gardening March 20, 2011 at 3:23pm
    The residual that I know and use, Pistol, is not to be used on non-permeable surfaces for environmental reasons I guess. It is used on shrub beds, mowing lines and, mulched areas, chipped drives etc.
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    Gary RK March 20, 2011 at 4:03pm

    Roy, if you are not qualified or insured to apply pesticides comemrcially, I strongly suggest you sub-contract it out to someone who is.

     

    The product you mentioned contains Sodium Chlorate and was not licensed (?) to be applied comemrecially, only privately I believe. My view is that anyone still using Sodium Chlorate needs to SERIOUSLY reconsider. Commercially it been banned for years (over 2 years ago). For private use it has been banned as well. I would NEVER use Sodium Chlorate ANYWHERE now. Its a totally toxic product. See: http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/prc_home.asp?id=2623&link=%2Fuploa...

     

    If licensed, look at Pistol or ProShield (~£120 / 5L). Neither can be used on hard surfaces.

  • Roy March 20, 2011 at 5:41pm
    The operator is licensed and Deadfast no longer contains sodium chlorate.
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    Gary RK March 20, 2011 at 6:11pm

    The pesticide agency website shows what's being removed and when. Sodium Chlorate has been recommended not to be used commercially for along long time, although available thru garden centres for private use right up until it was banned.

     

    What's its active ingredient now then  - I understood it was Sodium Chlorate when it was removed from sale and the product was never replaced ?

     

    Pistol : http://www.pitchcare.com/shop/professional-total-weed-killers/pisto...

    Pro Shield : http://www.ld-uk.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_36&products_id=3555

     

    We use Pro Shield for "on label" use only

     

    The problem is with the ingredient used to provide residual effect and how it needs soil to lock into. If applied to handstanding, it can get washed off into the waterways. I believe most people use Glyphoshate products for handstanding (but therefore no residual effect)....

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    Gary RK August 28, 2011 at 10:22pm

    Well timed Stu. Simples init?

  • Busy Bee Garden Services Limited August 29, 2011 at 8:30am

    We tried pistol this year for the1st time and I'm quite impresed, we have done less spraying with that compared to gly so its the one we use now.

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