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Crossed joints and straight lines

Is it acceptable at a professional level to lay patio paving with the 4 corner of the flags forming a cross or more commonly known in the trade as "cross roads" when there are various laying patterns available from all the patio paving manufacturers and suppliers which can be adapted to give a totally random laying pattern with a bit of imagination

 

I personally have never laid paving with cross roads as its not aesthetically pleasing to the eye but you see it so often on patio paving work even from members of high profile and vetted landscaping associations

 

an example of our work

Marshalls Eclipse Granite Patio

 

your opinions please

 

cheers

 

Crystalclear

Driveway and Patio Specialists

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • A definate no no!!  I dont care how well the slabs have been laid, my eye will always be drawn to the dreaded crossroads and I immediately lose interest!!

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    No, not acceptable.
  • Nice pics on link. Hope that wasn't down to you on the broken balustrade glass? ouch!

    The only thing I was drawn to though, was the slither at the top of the steps. I've been trying to work out how you would have got round it without losing the centring on the ramp. :-/

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    Thanks for your reply Colin and Nick

    I agree its not acceptable but happens so often on work carried out by so called professional association members, could it be due to the fact they have not actually laid the paving themselves and used sub contract labour or they was just having a bad day


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    the broken glass was due to the heat of the sun and nothing to do with us as we was not even on site when it cracked

    the customer was going to have resin bound gravel on the paths so the walls and reclaimed granite sett edging (which are not shown) never got constructed to suit a specific flag size hence nearly every single piece of light granite on the paths had to be cut on site

    so thanks for your offer but it does not need any working out due to the fact if you look at the line of the granite up the length of the path and the width of the light granite facing the front door is actually 3 full pieces which are 200mm wide which left the slither what was cut to shape with a 4mm - 5mm joint like the rest of the granite paving is

    before i started work it had a 150mm bull nose stone step what i removed and replaced with the granite to give a neater flush finish at the front door, it was decided that the slither looked neater at the front curve rather than at the house side what would be the full width of the front door and side panel
  • Nice Job Mick quality work

     

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    Thank you David
  • Mick,

     

    we have just done an indian stone patio consisting of 4 sized pieces.

     

    we used a random pattern (best one of many) ,  this actually had 4 smallest pieces  randomly on pattern @ top right of area.     so we laid it.

     

    needless to say the owner of the property the next morning asked me to swop 2x 290mm squares for 1x 300x600 oblong.        -  it looked much much better.

     

    i have learnt from you @  crystalclear and kerry @ kj landscape designs.

     

    i asked a question on here to confirn about using sbr underneath to prevent staining from cement coming through onto 'indian stone', but got a wrong answer from 2 people !  not oyou or kerry i will add.

     

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150296124269389&set=a....

     

    also not having more then 3/4 on a straight row i think you both said.  above is our job ,  feel free to inspect/ view full screen and give me any advice .  - thanks  rob

     

    www.gardens4u.co.uk

     

     

  • I agree that crosses should be avoided - what about 'near misses'? how far staggered should the joints be as a minumum - I reckon at least 40-50mm so it looks deliberate.

    Very precise work Mick, bet you were pleased with that job!

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    I was Rose and the customer was very pleased too :)

  • Mick , The crossroads and more than 4 along a straight row are certainly bad practice and its one of my soap box issues . As Marshalls reg. contractors we always draw up our random paved areas with a basic CAD and actually know what is going where and how many we need before each job. It is far easier to spot a design error this way and it makes for more economical buying. 

     Nice job Mick

     

     

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