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Clearing Waste from site

We got the ok tonight for a new contract.

And the initial part of the job is to clear the site. Its a large estate that has had no pruning done for around 15 years!
I estimate that there are about 5-7 tipper loads of waste to clear.

So i was wondering. Rather than go to the green waste dump 5-7 times. Shall i either;

1) Get a tree surgeon to put it all through a chipper and make the amount of waste alot smaller

2) Get a grab lorry to come and collect the waste?

Or can you think of any other ways i can get round this?

Thanks

Steve

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Permalink Reply by Craig Downey on April 25, 2012 at 21:12

have you priced up the different options?  i never really have that much rubbish so not priced up the different options, suppose it depends how far the tip is from where you are working also

 


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 25, 2012 at 21:16

Good idea Paul thanks

Any idea how much these can cost?
 
Paul @ PPCH Services said:

Roll on roll off bulk  container from large waste firm e.g. sita specifying green compostable waste


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 25, 2012 at 21:17

I havnt priced each option yet as i only got the ok for the job a couple of hours ago. I quoted though based on us going to the tip several times, but if i can reduce this that would be great.
 
Craig Downey said:

have you priced up the different options?  i never really have that much rubbish so not priced up the different options, suppose it depends how far the tip is from where you are working also

 


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 25, 2012 at 22:31

Thanks Paul i will research this. I can imagine these skips hold around the same as a grab lorry? Or maybe even more?
 
Paul @ PPCH Services said:

Soory, not sure, I've never booked one directly.

Every three years I top out and trim a 30' leylandi surrounding a local factory, and the facilities manager organises the roll on roll off themselves. From what I've been told its a relatively small cost, less than it would be for me to haul and dispose.

Cost  will undoubtedly  depend on haulage distance from the depot.

Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance said:

Good idea Paul thanks

Any idea how much these can cost?
 
Paul @ PPCH Services said:

Roll on roll off bulk  container from large waste firm e.g. sita specifying green compostable waste


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Brian www.mibservices.co.uk on April 25, 2012 at 22:43
Hi steve, up our way they cost around £350 plus a weekly rent charge for it. 240 square yards is the capacity. What kind of cuttings are you going to be dealing with. Wrangly soft shrub cuttings would be a pest to put through a chipper, not really designed for that type of material. But you could ask your tree surgeon to visit the site and give you a price on it, if it will be suitable to go through the chipper.

Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance said:

Good idea Paul thanks

Any idea how much these can cost?
 
Paul @ PPCH Services said:

Roll on roll off bulk  container from large waste firm e.g. sita specifying green compostable waste

Permalink Reply by Andy Thorne on April 25, 2012 at 22:50

Is burning on site an option Steve?


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Paul McNulty on April 25, 2012 at 22:53

My tree guy sells all his chippings for biofuel, so it's worth him coming and chipping a load if it's big enough. Anything over one load (I've got a standard 8x5 trailer) and I call him in.

I pay him what I'd pay to the tip. I save the time, and he makes a bit extra from selling the chippings. It's a huge time saver for me; loading everything up, moving it, waiting for the weighbridge, unloading it again, then driving back to repeat the process!


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 26, 2012 at 12:09
Burning is not an option unfortunately.  It is quite a built up estate so this is not possible. 

Duncan said:

Two votes for burn it, if possible! We 'remove' similar quantities of waste annually from single gardens, although it doesn't go anywhere. Composted, in situ or on a heap, or burned. Trucking compostable waste around is a bit nuts if you can get away with not doing it.

Andy Thorne said:

Is burning on site an option Steve?


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 26, 2012 at 12:11
The main bulk of shrubs being pruned is ivy. It's quite mature ivy. Would ivy go through a chipper? I should imagine it can as this particular ivy is quite thick.

Paul McNulty said:

My tree guy sells all his chippings for biofuel, so it's worth him coming and chipping a load if it's big enough. Anything over one load (I've got a standard 8x5 trailer) and I call him in.

I pay him what I'd pay to the tip. I save the time, and he makes a bit extra from selling the chippings. It's a huge time saver for me; loading everything up, moving it, waiting for the weighbridge, unloading it again, then driving back to repeat the process!


PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Gary RK on April 26, 2012 at 14:47
Steve, we often do similar jobs and have tried/trialled chippers ( various makes ) and have found that unless the green waste is predominantly 'hard', chippers struggles. The other concern is putting 'dirty waste', raked from ground thru chipper will crucify blades. Our tree guy we used stopped offering the service as we cost him many blade sharpens ;-)

For that reason we now use multli-vegatation chipper/shredders, which are specifically designed for processing green waste. We now process all green waste at site or back at yatd into our skip. They have both blades and flail hammers on the drum ( if you search the forum you will find a links to what we use I in a previous post/thread. Ours are Saleen Cougars - a French make ..common theme that given best mowers are etesia ...): http://www.ts-industrie.eu/product-ranges/multi-vegetation-concept/

We can process amazing amounts per hour with these smallish machines with the benefit that the output is 'shredded' and thus composts quicker.

I don't know if you have anyone you can hire one from ?

Prior to that we used RORO waste containers ~ 20m3 and/or Grabber service ( good operator will help by squashing down waste as he loads it). Can't remember costs but it's a two dimensional charge 1 - for initial delivery, 2 - weighbridge wt.

Would agree trailering it around is costly in your time and fuel unless you are next door to waste point. Also, gate charges around here mean it is uneconomical as you can't take enough in one trip.

PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 27, 2012 at 21:50
Hi Gary
Sorry I just have found this reply. I didn't have a email notification saying a reply had been sent so apologies.
I was on site today and looked closer at the ivy and it is indeed quite thin and leafy. I am not sure a chipper would be suitable as I don't want blades being blunt!
I will have a search for saleen cougar and see what comes up.
I will also search for Roro waste containers.
I am not sure a grab lorry will prove cost effective as it depends on whether the driver will help push the material more compact. The driver might not be as helpful as I need!!
Hmmm this is a pickle!

PRO MemberPermalink Reply by Steve Sonic Grounds Maintenance on April 27, 2012 at 21:52
A few years back a grab lorry would cost around 240. Not sure what it is now though!!

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